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2006-04-15 [Bookwyrm]: What happened? (if you need to you can always message me, if you don't want to talk about it here I mean)

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: I'll message you then... *sigh*

2006-04-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: Alright then hon.

2006-04-15 [zoloftzantac]: [HowlofDoom]: you sound down hun *huggels*

2006-04-15 [Bookwyrm]: I get no hugs for having a sprained ankle? ::whimpers::

2006-04-15 [zoloftzantac]: oh, I didn't know hugs could help a hurt foot ... *hugs [Bookwyrm] and then gets her some ice and gently rubs her poor foot*

2006-04-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::whimpers slightly but then goes limp:: Oomph o.o That's it I'm kidnapping you and bringing you home with me to keep in my closet.

2006-04-15 [zoloftzantac]: well, as long as you give me a little night light and keep feeding me goodies :)

2006-04-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins:: No problem :P I'll even give you blankets and pillows! 'Cause I'm awesome like that.

2006-04-15 [zoloftzantac]: ^_^ hooray! I'm gonna call my landlord right now and tell him to stick his lease in his ass!

2006-04-15 [Bookwyrm]: Ahahaha :P You'll have to be really quiet though...I don't know what my grandparents would think about a twenty year old hairy bass player living in my closet...with a night light XD

2006-04-15 [zoloftzantac]: heh, okay, forget the night light then :p oh, I'm a little older than that hun ;)

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: lol

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: thanks for the hugs guys...

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: cool living in a closet would be so cool, dark but cool

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: the dark part is the best...

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm i agree!! darkness is simply the best, better than all the rest *starts singing the song 'simply the best!!*

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: *laughs*

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *continues to sing* 'better than all the re..., come on you all know the words

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: actually.. no i don't...

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *laughs* well what songs do you know

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: I know alot of songs... but I'm not much of a singer....

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ok....so what do you want to do....can you dance

2006-04-15 [HowlofDoom]: Nope....

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: can you do enything

2006-04-15 [zoloftzantac]: ^_^ Come on [HowlofDoom], I bet you are a great virtual dancer ;)

2006-04-15 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: yea come on virtual dance with me please and you zolo *starts to dothe tango with zolo*

2006-04-16 [zoloftzantac]: *tells the band to start playing* <img:img/mood/87_1117658927.gif> bum bum! bum bum badadadum! bum bum! ... <img:http://elfpack.com/img/mood/87_1117658935.gif> *puts his his arm around [*Suicidal Cupcake*] and snaps his head tango style* ;)

2006-04-16 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *puts hand on zolos shoulder and starts to tango like she has never danced before * you are such a wonderful dancer

2006-04-16 [zoloftzantac]: *dancing together* oh, that is kind of you to say [*Suicidal Cupcake*], dancing with you is a pleasure *starts to try some more fancy moves since things are going so well*

2006-04-16 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *is happy things ase going well and likes the fancy dance moves that zolo is doing* wow we certanly dance well together, *spins round and round in a fancy way*

2006-04-16 [zoloftzantac]: *traces a large sweeping arc with his shoe infront of her as she spins along* you are very graceful *plays with some improvisational rapid foot work*

2006-04-16 [Bookwyrm]: I know you're older than twenty but I was too lazy to go back and get your exact age. I was thinking about 27 but I couldn't remember and I was tired -.- ::takes her baskets of baked goods elsewhere:: Hah! -.-

2006-04-16 [zoloftzantac]: *the longest song ever ends* thanks for the dance [*Suicidal Cupcake*] ;)

2006-04-16 [zoloftzantac]: ha, well, then by know you know I'm 31 ^_^ awhhh ... no more goodies? I still get to live in your closet tho, right?

2006-04-16 [Bookwyrm]: No T_T 'cause you should be happy that I thought you were younger :P And because my closet is really unorganized right now and I doubt you could fit.

2006-04-16 [Bookwyrm]: ::whimpers and curls up in a big comfy chair::

2006-04-16 [zoloftzantac]: :( pretty please, I won't take up much space, I swear ... ha, I'm never going back to my twenties tho, they sucked way worse than now sucks :p

2006-04-16 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: your welcome for the dance zolo we should do it again sometime, and maby mothyr you could get one of those walking closets and so zolo would hav like a house

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: Okay...since you said I looked pretty in my new picture I guess I'll let you live in my closet for now...But you're on probation young man! ::waves a rolled up newspaper in your face then falls over giggling and throws cookies, pastries, and other baked goods at zoloft::

2006-04-17 [zoloftzantac]: oh, am I gonna get a spanking? I have been very bad .. *bats eyes* :p

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: lol  ;P

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: Well...hmmm...::ponders the thought and blushes, giggling uncontrollably::...::stuffs a cookie in her mouth to shut herself up::

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: what kind of cookie is that

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: Shun Whel! (which translates to "Sun Wheel" without a full mouth)...::holds up a cookie for [*Suicidal Cupcake*]:: Won-won? (Which translates to "Want one?")

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: no thank you but thanks for the offer

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins and nods, swallowing her cookie:: You're welcome ^_^ If you want any other kind of baked good just tell me. I bake up stuff for zoloft all the time.

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: i know, mmm baked goods well talk later im goin to watch simpsons so i will be back in 20 mins

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: Okay. :P Enjoy ^_^

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: IM BACK did you miss me i missed you

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins:: 'Course I did :P

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: aww *smiles*

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::chuckles:: Ugh...my feet are swollen T_T

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: awww *hands some foot cream* you sprained it right?

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: Sprained one yes. The other one is just swollen because it hates me.

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: haha well tell it that its not allowed to hate you when you are on this wiki because you are on a anti hate page

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: Okay. ::stares at her foot, speaking sweetly to it, telling it not to hate her on I Hate Hate 'cause it's against the rules::...OW! T_T

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *looks at mothyrs foot* no foot THATS A BAD FOOT

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles quietly...afterwhich her foot throbs again:: Stop it!! T_T

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: awww *huggles and hands some pain killers*

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::smiles:: Aww thanks ^_^ ::takes the pain killers and shortly after goes cross-eyed:: o.o

2006-04-17 [BlindGuardian]: *whistles "Painkiller" * :)

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::stares oddly at the new person and tackles them:: Cookie?

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *walkes up to blind and shakes hand* welcome to our convo if i were you i would hav one of mothyrs cookies there nice

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: Oh oh oh! ::untackles:: Sorry ^_^ Didn't know you were pregnant ^_^ Congratulations! ::gives her a gigantic basket full of her baked goods...the biggest basket she's ever given away:: I love babies ^_^

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: your pregnant!!! aww babys are cool do you know weather its a girl or boy

2006-04-17 [zoloftzantac]: ahwww, I missed [BlindGuardian]. She's not new tho, she is one of our first members ^_^

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: hi zolo how are you

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: I know she's not a new member. I said new person. Because she was new to the conversation. :P Idiot...::pokes::

2006-04-17 [zoloftzantac]: hi there [*Suicidal Cupcake*] I'm doing alright I guess (considering I forgot to sleep *again* last night) *ignores [Bookwyrm]* :p

2006-04-17 [Bookwyrm]: ::tackles zoloft and licks his cheek:: Don't ignore me! I love you!! XD ::gives him a cookie::

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: good to here, hey mothyr dose his cheeke taste good

2006-04-17 [L V F]: -hugs to all who want them-

2006-04-17 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ooo i want a hug

2006-04-18 [HowlofDoom]: *hugs [*Suicidal Cupcake*]* yay you got a hug!

2006-04-18 [Bookwyrm]: [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: Of course his cheek tastes good. He's a bass player. That's a given. ::hugs her too:: Hah! You got another one! ::hugs [HowlofDoom]:: You did too mate! ::gives out cookies::

2006-04-18 [L V F]: yay cookies!

2006-04-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins:: Cookies are the greatest. Or at least they are one of the greats. ^_^

2006-04-18 [zoloftzantac]: Oh, yeah, we bass players taste great ;) We might be flakes tho ... I just e-filed my taxes 3 hours before the extended deadline ....

2006-04-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: Well I'm dating a bass player. And if there was an Olympic competition for laziness...he'd at the very least come in second.

2006-04-18 [zoloftzantac]: He would have a hard time to beat me :p If I could I would sleep for the rest of my life and be very happy ^_^

2006-04-18 [Bookwyrm]: He would too if her weren't dating me. Since dating me he's had...other things...on his mind that he'd rather do for the rest of his life. :P

2006-04-18 [HowlofDoom]: yay cookies!

2006-04-18 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *gives evryone a hug* yay hugs for evryone

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: *returns hug and hugs everyone else* best part is hugs are free!

2006-04-19 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm lol i wonder what it would be like if you did have to pay for them

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: If you did I would despise humans and life more then I already do...

2006-04-19 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm i agree im happy that some things are still free next we will have to pay for air

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: seriously.... but that calls to mind the saying, "The best things in life are free." I can agree...

2006-04-19 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: mmm probably we will because we have to pay for evrything thease days dont we like: if you go into a reasteraunt you have to pay to sit inside and eat and you have to pay to use a public toilet(alto they are horrible enyway)

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: yeah....

2006-04-19 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: ok can we talk later its rreely late here ok night night

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: *nods* sure, go ahead and get some rest... later

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::hugs everyone and passes out cookies and other baked goods to everyone as she enters the room:: How is everyone tonight/today?

2006-04-19 [zoloftzantac]: hugs and goodies ^_^

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ^^ My speciality.

2006-04-19 [zoloftzantac]: doh! [~*Astarte*~] just pointed out that respect is spelled wrong at the to of this page ... *looks at [Bookwyrm]* ;)

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::head droops in shame:: I have failed. ::curls up in a ball in the corner and whimpers:: I am shamed.

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: "discussion" and "reference" were spelled incorrectly as well...

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: The first "discussion" was spelled correctly. It was "Topics of Disscusion" though...I can't believe I never noticed that...T_T

2006-04-19 [zoloftzantac]: oh no! I am the one who failed, for once you didn't catch me tho ^_^

2006-04-19 [zoloftzantac]: oh, you fixed it! hooray!

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: I know...that's why I failed T_T I didn't catch you...curses and crumbs. ::yawns sleepily::

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: 'Course I did. That's my job here. Unofficial though it may be :P

2006-04-19 [~*Astarte*~]: "A listing of 140 hate groups and thier webpages." [~*Astarte*~] aka Virgo Girl reminds zz that "thier" should be spelled "their"... :)

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::bangs head against wall:: Forgive my bluntness right now but...I suck. I'm going to bed soon. ::leaves a few baskets of baked goods in the corner she was sitting in and stumbles off towards her house yawning tiredly::

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: Oh yeah...fixed the "thier" problem.

2006-04-19 [~*Astarte*~]: [Bookwyrm] you are awesome! ZZ is lucky to have you watching his wiki - helping with whatever he needs help with... Sleep well.

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::smiles sleepily:: Thanks for the compliment. I just find it a bit of a failure in myself to have let such simple mistakes be passed over. If my grandmother had seen me miss those she would've smacked me across the back of the head. ::grins:: Ahh well, ::bows:: thank you again! ^^ I most certainly will try.

2006-04-19 [zoloftzantac]: I really do need help spelling stuff ^_^ thank you both

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::bows again:: 'Course. We love you like that...or maybe it's just an excuse to make fun of you for a short moment...::shrugs:: I dunno. :P

2006-04-19 [L V F]: -passes out-

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: I have returned o.O...::pokes [L V F] idly:: Hey...hey there...you okay?

2006-04-19 [L V F]: -starts twitching-

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: Oooo ::giggles with delight:: Twitchy little ferret! ::pokes with a stick::

2006-04-19 [L V F]: -jumps up and bites the stick in half- Oh sry.... u woke me up... -spits wood out- damn i got some stuck in my fang

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: Awww...you stopped twitching T_T ::gives you a cookie anyway::

2006-04-19 [L V F]: YAY A COOKIE! -eats it-

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins:: Cookies make everyone happy ^_^

2006-04-19 [L V F]: -nod nod- yes they do.

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::stuffs a Sun Wheel in her mouth happily::

2006-04-19 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: hmmmm whaty is a sun wheel enyway

2006-04-19 [Bookwyrm]: I don't know. For some reason it sounds like a cookie I'm going to create. Made like a pinwheel cookie but with citrus flavour. Like lemon flavoured sugar cookie for one part and orange flavoured sugar cookie for the other.

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: you know what pisses me off hard-core? these bastards that are fucking PROTESTING solder's funerals! they are holding up signs that read "God hates America" and "Thank God for dead solders" and "our solders burn in hell"! i was DISGUSTED by this! protest the war, but not the solders, and not the men and woman that gave their lives, not at their frickin' funeral where their crying families are gathered! it makes me homicidal to see assholes like that. they have NO respect!

2006-04-19 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: I totally feel you, Raine. It's EXTREMELY disrespectful for people to be doing that. It wasn't the soldiers who wanted the war. They're just fighting it. Serving their country. For people who go protest at their funerals.

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: protest the war, picket the whitehouse sidewalks, but DON'T do that to the families! ><

2006-04-19 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: I know, right?

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: my brother saw it on the news with me and wanted to kill those people. he got really mad about that and stormed out of the house...he was gone for a while...>>; i hope he killed someone in all honesty

2006-04-19 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: o.o; When was it on? What channel? Jesus, what a kind of idiots were these people that would do something that stupid? D:

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: it was yesterday, or the day before, i can't remember but it was on all the news chanels...i think i was watching MSNBC myself at that moment

2006-04-19 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: Oh...

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: ...

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: dot dot dot? what's that mean?

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: It means I'm lost...

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: read the comments, for once there is an actual topic on this wiki

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: what the hell.... why would they do that? that's horrible...

2006-04-19 [RabidSphinx]: i know!

2006-04-19 [HowlofDoom]: now i'm ready to go slit some throats.... grrrr

2006-04-19 [L V F]: -looks around- -gives out hugs-

2006-04-20 [HowlofDoom]: Yay hugs!

2006-04-20 [Bookwyrm]: I agree. It's disgusting that these people do this. And I assure you that if it had been one of their family members that died they would be as enraged as we are. The truth is very few people actually care about other people around them. They want to fight their "wars" from the safety of their own homes and fight against the people fighting for them. I agree that war is, in general, senseless. But with humanity nowadays it is necessary. Until everyone realizes that their hate is causing all of this garbage...it's going to continue. Protesting the war isn't going to get anyone anywhere...particularly if you protest the soldiers. Soldiers are good people (typically).

2006-04-20 [Bookwyrm]: Soldiers (generally) are fighting for their families...not fighting just to fight. And it's sick that these people would protest at their funerals.

2006-04-20 [Bookwyrm]: ::gives out hugs as well, along with her famous cookies:: I can only hope these people will come to their senses and realize how much pain they're putting these families through. It hurts enough without them pouring salt in the wound.

2006-04-20 [RabidSphinx]: i hate people...but i'm on this wiki...lol

2006-04-20 [HowlofDoom]: idk... I claim I hate ppl... but.. not really...... I hate the way they are sometimes.... but I don't hate THEM

2006-04-21 [Bookwyrm]: I don't hate people. I positively delight in them. That doesn't mean they don't disgust me sometimes though.

2006-04-21 [zoloftzantac]: This wound is in America's heart, and it isn't healing, it is getting worse. When you truely believe something is wrong, how far will you go to fight against it? (Also, this was protesting a soldiers death, not like killing an abortion Doc, or crashing planes into the WTC.) I have protested the pointless and endless death in Iraq on mutiple occasions, actually tomorrow Bush will be in California and I am going out to "un-welcome" him, his deaths and his war. I have never protested these deaths at a funneral, but I do think it's an interesting idea. None should disrespect the dead or the families, but I could see showing up and standing in quiet with an anti-war shirt and some flowers.

2006-04-21 [zoloftzantac]: I'm looking for this in the news, I don't think ever happened ... some group said they were gonna do it, but it sounds like the Patriot Guard bikers kept them away ...

2006-04-21 [RabidSphinx]: anti-war shirts are just as fucking bad zoloft. these are patriatic families that (for the most part) suppor the war. if my father were to die in Afghanistan in the next year, and someone came to HIS funeral in an anti-war shirt, i would be doing 25 to life in jail for killing them. it did happen, i watched them with their signs. they played it for 30 minutes on MSNBC and had a fatherof the church on to talk about it. don't you DARE call me a liar.

2006-04-22 [zoloftzantac]: *is a little hurt, but also a little drunk* I will reply later on ...

2006-04-22 [zoloftzantac]: Sarah, I would never call you a liar. Can you please help me find a news link to your story? I wanted to read about it but i couldn't find it. I thought I was reading about it, but it seems there were at aleast two stories about protesting at a soldiers funneral in the news in the last few days. I didn't get that you were saying that you saw footage of them protesting, When I said "I don't think ever happened" That was based on the story I found, then I figured you had seen a story about how they were planning to do it ....

2006-04-22 [zoloftzantac]: *I* would never protest at a funneral, but I do think the idea could be interesting, however I was thinking along the lines of being queit and respectful while wearing a T-shirt that says something like "war sucks" to me that seems very, very diffeant than holding a big sign that says this the soldier in this grave is going to hell ... who ever had signs saying stuff like that was clearly an asshole.

2006-04-22 [~*Astarte*~]: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12071434/ Could this be what was referenced?

2006-04-22 [zoloftzantac]: Thanks, I'll add it to our news watch page (I hate hate news) Here is the story that got me confussed. No protest at funeral - I hate hate news#8

2006-04-22 [zoloftzantac]: *looks at [~*Astarte*~]'s link* ahh ... okay, this is the same group, they did protest the funeral [RabidSphinx] saw and then they have been blocked from others by a motorcycle gang. This guy, Pastor Fred Phelps, is pretty nuts, but he is not anti-war tho, he is anti-gays and he protests because he is angry that the US Military has a "don't ask - don't tell" policy about homosexuality.

2006-04-22 [~*Astarte*~]: You are most welcome. Thank you for putting the link in the proper place.

2006-04-22 [zoloftzantac]: it is fine to share links here ^_^ I just try to keep a list of links we discuss all in one place so people don't have to go back thru the 1986 comments on this page to see what we have been talking about ;)

2006-04-22 [~*Astarte*~]: The following statement summarizes why Phelps does what he does at soldier's funerals... "Westboro Baptist Church - Members of a small Kansas church purposely tries to disrupt funerals — but this is not an anti-war protest. They say the soldiers are evil, because they died defending a country that tolerates homosexuality." Quote found at http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/US/story?id=1745591&page=1 

2006-04-23 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: big descution going on here

2006-04-24 [Bookwyrm]: Yeah...noticed that...::retreats back into her corner to listen::

2006-04-24 [*Suicidal Cupcake*]: *giggles*

2006-04-24 [eyes of frost]: Joe are you alive?

2006-04-25 [zoloftzantac]: yep, I'm here, I was trying to let other people get involved in the dissusion if they wanted to, it gets pushed to the old wiki pages so quickly ... I wanted to move it to the forum, but it seems a lot of our members don't use the forums.

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: I always forget about the forums....

2006-04-25 [catelf]: I watch the forums, but no one ever says anything. I suppose if I want conversation, I ought to start a topic myself...

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: I don't like how the forums work either....

2006-04-25 [Bookwyrm]: I don't really like them much either.

2006-04-25 [zoloftzantac]: I use them a lot, but most of the public forums are full of junk, once you figure them out it is a much better way for a group to talk.

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: I don't know... it's easier for me to be able to just see it all on one page...

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: Oh my goodness! I cannot believe those protestors! I feel everyone has a right to free speach and the right to protest, but to disrupt a family's grieving is just...wrong.

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: yeah... sad isn't it?

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: And how can they say that God hates gays and that he's punishing the soldiers for the country's beliefs? #1. It seems most of the country DOES NOT agree with homosexuality. #2. If there is a god, how could he be so cruel as to punish innocents for others actions/beliefs? #3. How do those ppl know what God thinks of us?? It's not as if all the Gays in the country are dying. No, RANDOM PEOPLE are dying in Iraq because We're Fighting A War!

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: Well that's what happens in a war... duh! what do they expect

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: And some of these ppl died of AIDS! They were killed by a DISEASE, not by God. Or does god only let "bad" ppl get sick?

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: No, I know plenty of good ppl that get sick... It's life, it happens...

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: Some of the "Anti-Homosexual" banners are just plain MEAN. I get that they don't like us, fine. I also get some of them just disagree with homosexuality, and not the homosexual. W/e. But "Gay is Gross" ?? That just makes us feel bad...

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: I know.... it does, i know how you feel....

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: I want to ask them to change it. I won't argue or anything, but I'd like if it wasn't so cruel. They say they want to hate homoSEXUALITY, not homoSXUALS, so maybe...

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: Even my dad and step mom are against homosexuals and homosexuality...

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: I'm sorry. Mine too...I haven't come out yet...

2006-04-25 [HowlofDoom]: My mom and step dad know and don't mind though...

2006-04-25 [Drink Bleach And Die]: That's good.

2006-04-26 [HowlofDoom]: yeah

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: ::jumps in and hugs [HowlofDoom]:: No need for a long face now mate. Cheer up! ::passes out cookies and muffins::

2006-04-26 [zoloftzantac]: Welcome to [Drink Bleach And Die] our newest member! When ever someone new joins I remind everyone of our only real rule, please be respectful to others here. Hate is a touchy subject, and you will meet people here who will disagree with you, and that is okay, this is a safe zone to talk with people who disagree with you, and our discussions are possible because we are all respcetful to each other here. So please play nice and welcome again. ^_^

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: Welcome [Drink Bleach And Die] ^_^ ::gives them a cookie::

2006-04-26 [zoloftzantac]: Lets also give a big welcome to [Wendy]! ^_^ Please see the comment I made right above this, it would be silly to repeat it again this soon. Welcome!

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: *waves to everyone and smiles* Thank you all very much!

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: To [Drink Bleach And Die]: "I'm fine with straight people as long as they act gay in public." I found that in a tiny rainbow image thinger. I sent it to you. Pretty cute and clever. ^__^

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: What he world needs now is love! Sweet love...It's the only thing that there's just too little of!

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: Now then, when it comes to God...There was the whole thing in the Bible about certain meants being "unclean". Pork is a good example. As we all know, times change. Pork is a very difficult meat to cook properly. If a meat isn't cooked right, people get sick! We know how to cook meat now, thus...It should be okay, right?

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: That is how I feel about homosexuality and free love. It can be dangerous. Certain sexual activities were to be abstained from because of damage. Whether it be incest leading to birth defects, or anal sex leading to tearing. Times change. We have the technology to deal with these things. That is how I view it. It was for our protection in social and physical situations.

2006-04-26 [Wendy]: These are my views, anyways. Here in Arizona, we have churches that are led by gay pastors and ministers! Ya know? I think that it is beautiful. ^__^

2006-04-26 [L V F]: Right on wendy. Gays and bis are still humans. i think the country just needs to accept it that humans are evolving. I cant figure out what prompted it but humans are evolving.

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins:: I like your thinking [Wendy]! ::gives [Wendy] a gigantic cookie a little bigger than a hubcap::

2006-04-26 [L V F]: oh damn big cookie.... -faints cause of the size-

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: I make good cookies. Want one?

2006-04-26 [L V F]: yes plz!

2006-04-26 [Bookwyrm]: ::gives [L V F] a gigantic cookie slightly larger than a hubcap::

2006-04-26 [zoloftzantac]: What you say is very interesting [Wendy] It does now make me wonder ... if we had effective and inexpensive and avaliable birth control and protection in the time of the bible, would they have looked down on sex outside or marriage in the same way? I don't know.

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